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UFO information
UFOs are a serious area of research reported by astronauts like Gorden Cooper, world Leaders like Jimmy Carter, royalty like Prince Philip and military Leaders like Douglas MacArthur. Skeptics are frequently cited, but they seem ignorant of the standards of evidence used by science. The belief by some skeptics that extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence is proof that they cannot be objective as all claims require equal standards of evidence. If any extraordinary evidence is required it will be for the facts that go unquestioned.

The existence of UFOs does not benefit my game gene theory or help anyone get ahead in life. It is only a matter of getting the whole picture. I give these links as a courtesy to others who are making the effort. Here is only some of the massive evidence for UFOs.

Various testimonials
UFO Evidence
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Crop Circle debate

SOME OF THE MANY DOCUMENTS TAKEN FROM VARIOUS AUTHORITIES
SOURCE - Science, Logic and UFO debate

Vice Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoetter, former Director of the CIA

"It is time for the truth to be brought out... Behind the scenes high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about the UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe the unknown flying objects are nonsense.... I urge immediate Congressional action to reduce the dangers from secrecy about unidentified flying objects." Former CIA Director Vice Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoetter, signed statement to Congress, August 22, 1960.

General George S. Brown, former USAF Chief of Staff

"I don't know whether this story has ever been told or not. They weren't called UFOs. They were called enemy helicopters. And they were only seen at night and they were only seen in certain places. They were seen up around the DMZ in the early summer of '68. And this resulted in quite a little battle. And in the course of this, an Australian destroyer took a hit and we never found any enemy, we only found ourselves when this had all been sorted out. And this caused some shooting there, and there was no enemy at all involved but we always reacted. Always after dark. The same thing happened up at Pleiku at the Highlands in '69." General George S. Brown, USAF Chief of Staff, Department of Defense transcript of press conference in Illinois, October 16, 1973.

Victor Marchetti, former Special Assistant to the Executive Director of the CIA

"We have, indeed, been contacted -- perhaps even visited -- by extraterrestrial beings, and the US government, in collusion with the other national powers of the Earth, is determined to keep this information from the general public." Victor Marchetti, former Special Assistant to the Executive Director of the CIA, in an article written by him for Second Look entitled "How the CIA Views the UFO Phenomenon", Vol 1, No 7, Washington, DC, May, 1979.

Major-General Wilfred de Brouwer, former Deputy Chief, Royal Belgian Air Force

"In any case, the Air Force has arrived to the conclusion that a certain number of anomalous phenomena has been produced within Belgian airspace. The numerous testimonies of ground observations compiled in this [SOBEPS] book, reinforced by the reports of the night of March 30-31 [1990], have led us to face the hypothesis that a certain number of unauthorized aerial activities have taken place. Until now, not a single trace of aggressiveness has been signalled; military or civilian air traffic has not been perturbed nor threatened. We can therefore advance that the presumed activities do not constitute a direct menace. The day will come undoubtedly when the phenomenon will be observed with technological means of detection and collection that won't leave a single doubt about its origin. This should lift a part of the veil that has covered the mystery for a long time. A mystery that continues to the present. But it exists, it is real, and that in itself is an important conclusion." Major-General Wilfred de Brouwer, Deputy Chief, Royal Belgian Air Force, "Postface" in SOBEPS' Vague d'OVNI sur la Belgique - Un Dossier Exceptionnel, Brussels: SOBEPS, 1991.

Air Chief Marshal Lord Dowding, Commander-in-Chief of the Royal Air Force Fighter Command during the Battle of Britain

"More than 10,000 sightings have been reported, the majority of which cannot be accounted for by any "scientific" explanation... I am convinced that these objects do exist and that they are not manufactured by any nation on Earth. I can therefore see no alternative to accepting the theory that they come from some extraterrestrial source." Air Chief Marshal Lord Dowding, Commander-in-Chief of the Royal Air Force Fighter Command during the Battle of Britain, printed in Sunday Dispatch, London, July 11, 1954.

Lord Hill-Norton, former Chief of Defense Staff, Ministry of Defense, Great Britain

"The evidence that there are objects which have been seen in our atmosphere, and even on terra firma, that cannot be accounted for either as man-made objects or as any physical force or effect known to our scientists, seems to me to be overwhelming... A very large number of sightings have been vouched for by persons whose credentials seem to me unimpeachable. It is striking that so many have been trained observers, such as police officers and airline or military pilots. Their observations have in many instances... been supported either by technical means such as radar or, even more convincingly, by... interference with electrical apparatus of one sort or another..." Lord Hill-Norton, Chief of Defense Staff, Ministry of Defense, Great Britain, 1973; Chairman, Military Committee of NATO, 1974-77; quoted from his foreword to "Above Top Secret" by Timothy Good, Morrow & Co's Quill Books, 1988.

General Lionel M. Chassin, former Commanding General of the French Air Forces, and General Air Defense Coordinator of the Allied Air Forces of NATO

"The number of thoughtful, intelligent, educated people in full possession of their faculties who have "seen something" and described it, grows every day... We can... say categorically that mysterious objects have indeed appeared and continue to appear in the sky that surrounds us." General Lionel M. Chassin, Commanding General of the French Air Forces, and General Air Defense Coordinator of the Allied Air Forces of NATO, in foreword to Aime Michel's "Flying Saucers and the Straight-Line Mystery", Criterion Books, 1958.

M. Robert Galley, former French Minister of Defense

"I must say that if listeners could see for themselves the mass of reports coming in from the airborne gendarmerie, from the mobile gendarmerie, and from the gendarmerie charged with the job of conducting investigations, all of which reports are forwarded by us to the National Center for Space Studies, then they would see that it is all pretty disturbing. I believe that the attitude of spirit that we must vis-a-vis this phenomenon is an open one, that is to say that it doesn't consist in denying a priori, as our ancestors of previous centuries did deny many things that seem nowadays perfectly elementary." M. Robert Galley, French Minister of Defense, interviewed on radio by Jean-Claude Bourret, February 21, 1974.

Dr. Claude Poher, founder and first director of GEPAN, the UFO investigative office under the French government's National Center for Space Sciences

"Taking into account the facts that we have gathered from the observers and from the location of their observations, we concluded that there generally can be said to be a material phenomenon behind the observations. In 60% of the cases reported here, the description of this phenomenon is apparently one of a flying machine whose origin, modes of lifting and/or propulsion are totally outside our knowledge." Dr. Claude Poher, Ph.D. in astronomy, founder and first director of GEPAN, the UFO investigative office under the French government's National Center for Space Sciences which analyzed reports from the Gendarmerie from 1974 through 1978, writing in the GEPAN Report to the Scientific Committee, June, 1978, Vol 1, Chapter 4.

George Keleti, Hungarian Minister of Defense

"Around Szolnok many UFO reports have been received from the Ministry of Defense, which obviously and logically means that they [UFOs] know very well where they have to land and what they have to do. It is remarkable indeed that the Hungarian newspapers, in general newspapers everywhere, reject the reports of the authorities." George Keleti, Minister of Defense, Hungary, in article by Attila Lenart entitled "Ask a Question to the Minister of Defense: George Keleti, Are You Afraid of a UFO Invasion?", Nepszava, Budapest, August 18, 1994.

Air Marshall Roesmin Nurjadin, former Commander-in-Chief of the Indonesian Air Force

"UFOs sighted in Indonesia are identical with those sighted in other countries. Sometimes they pose a problem for our air defense and once we were obliged to open fire on them." Air Marshall Roesmin Nurjadin, Commander-in-Chief of the Indonesian Air Force, in a letter to Yusuke J. Matsumura dated May 5, 1967, reprinted in Good ibid.

Toshiki Kaifu, former Prime Minister, Japan

"First of all, I told a magazine this past January that, as an underdeveloped country with regards to the UFO problem, Japan had to take into account what should be done about the UFO question, and that we had to spend more time on these matters. In addition, I said that someone had to solve the UFO problem with far reaching vision at the same time. Secondly, I believe it is a reasonable time to take the UFO problem seriously as a reality... I hope that this Symposium will contribute to peace on Earth from the point of view of outer space, and take the first step toward the international cooperation in the field of UFOs." Toshiki Kaifu, Prime Minister, Japan, in a letter to Mayor Shiotani of Hakui City, dated June 24, 1990, endorsing an upcoming Space & UFO Symposium.

General Carlos Castro Cavero, former General in the Spanish Air Force and former Commander of Spain's Third Aerial Region

"I believe that UFOs are spaceships or extraterrestrial craft... The nations of the world are currently working together in the investigation of the UFO phenomenon. There is an international exchange of data. Maybe when this group of nations acquires more precise and definite information, it will be possible to release the news to the world." General Carlos Castro Cavero, General in the Spanish Air Force and former Commander of Spain's Third Aerial Region, in an interview with J. J. Benitez, La Gaceta del Norte, Balboa, Spain, June 27, 1976.

Admiral Delmer S. Fahrney, former head of the Navy's guided-missile program

"No agency in this country or Russia is able to duplicate at this time the speeds and accelerations which radars and observers indicate these flying objects are able to achieve... there are objects coming into our atmosphere at very high speeds." Admiral Delmer S. Fahrney, former head of the Navy's guided-missile program, printed in New York Times, January 17, 1957, p. 31.

UFO Crashes
(REPORTS)
List borrowed from J. Girven

September 1862
Indian Ocean - Believed to be a hoax (by whom?)

An old Danish sailor told a reporter from the Houston Post that, as a mate on a Danish ship, he had been caught in a storm on the Indian Ocean. The ship was destroyed, but he and a few others managed to reach a small rocky island. While the storm raged on, the men witnessed a strange aircraft the size of a battleship with four huge wings crash into the side of a cliff. The men went to the crash site and found many strange "implements and articles of furniture" as well as some food. To their horror, they also found the bodies of over a dozen strangely dressed men. The men were reported as being huge, as much as twelve feet tall. The sight drove one man insane, and he jumped from the cliff. The others left the scene, but returned a few days later to dispose of the bodies. They then built a raft out of the craft and were rescued by a Russian ship three days later. The source of the story, a man only known as Oleson, claimed to have proof. He owned a ring of "immense size" that was made of "metals unknown to any jeweler who has seen it."

Early April 1897
Bethany, Missouri - Believed to be a hoax (by whom?)
An unidentified man wrote to a Missouri newspaper to report that he'd seen an airship strike a flagpole and crash. The bodies of the two pilots were so badly mangled that they couldn't be identified, but letters they carried suggested they were from San Francisco or Omaha.

April 9, 1897
Lanark, Illinois - Believed to be a hoax (by whom?)
Johann Fliegeltoub reported that an airship spun out of control during a blizzard and crashed on his farm. Two of the occupants were killed, but Fliegeltoub pulled one injured pilot, dressing "after the fashion of the Greeks in the time of Christ" from the wreckage. He then charged the curious a dollar a head to take a look. The creature reported that it was from Mars, and when his strength returned, he repaired his ship and flew away.

April 11, 1897
Pavilion, Michigan - Believed to be a hoax (by whom?)
An airship was reported to have exploded over Pavilion, raining small fragments onto a rooftop. A propeller blade, fused, made of some light material was also found.
Personal Comments: Airplanes weren't in use at this time, thus a propeller wouldn't exist on an aircraft at the time. If one did, that means someone created a successful aircraft more that six years before the Wright's.

Mid-April 1897
Humboldt, Tennessee - Believed to be a hoax (by whom?)
Sam McLeary claimed that he spotted the sole occupant of an airship that crashed into the woods near Forked Deer River. It was encased in a block of ice, probably, according to the newspaper, in the "pitiless cold" of the upper atmosphere.
Personal Comments: The atmosphere would not freeze something in a block of ice. Refrigeration was invented in the mid-1800's but not popularized until much later. How is the freezing of a body in a block of ice accounted for? Possibly a preservative state of other worldly creatures? Who knows?

April 15, 1897
Highland Station, Kansas - Believed to be a hoax (by whom?)
The occupant of an airship that crashed because of a chemical explosion was dragged from the wreckage, moaning. When he regained consciousness, he reported that his name was Pedro Sanchez and said he was from Cuba. Personal Comments: Let it be considered that planes still weren't invented at this time. The only means of transportation was via hot air balloon, which would be one long trip from Cuba.

April 17, 1897
Aurora, Texas - Believed to be a hoax (by whom?)
According to legend (do you mean newspaper reporter?) a great airship appeared over Aurora at 6 A.M. It came in low, buzzed the town square, and then continued to the north until it hit a windmill on the ranch of Judge Proctor. The airship disintegrated into a cloud of metallic debris. Townspeople rushed to the scene and found the body of the dead pilot. T.J. Weems, identified as a Signal Corps officer, believed the pilot came from Mars. Searchers found several documents covered with strange writing. Although the newspaper claimed that it weighed several tons, all of the debris was recovered and removed by noon. The ship was made of aluminum and silver. Later the townspeople gave the body a Christian burial, and that was the end of it. Modern researchers have found several problems with this case. The original story was told by H.E. Hayden, a stringer for the Dallas Morning News. Hayden reportedly said later that he had concocted the story to put his hometown on the map. Even without this confession, other problems existed. T.J. Weems was not a member of the Signal Corps but was in fact a local blacksmith. In interviews conducted in the late 1960's, several residents of Aurora in 1897 claimed they knew nothing about the crash. Judge Proctor did own a ranch there, but had no windmill.
Personal Comments: Either this town was stupid, or something happened. Why didn't the town report the lie when they read the newspaper? Also, there were nine reported UFO crashes in 1897, all in the month of April. Several of the crashes were reported on the same day. I find this highly unusual.

June 30, 1908
Tunguska, Siberia - Best answer today is a cometary impact
Spring 1941
Cape Girardeau, Missouri - Insufficient data
Charlette Mann said that her grandfather, a minister, received a phone call asking him to go to the scene of an aircraft accident. But it wasn't like any aircraft he'd ever seen. Although it was badly damaged, with debris scattered, there was enough intact that he got the impression of a circular craft. There were three bodies lying on the ground. He said some of the prayers over them and got a good look at them. They wore suits that covered them from head to foot and looked like wrinkled aluminum. They seemed to be no hair on the bodies and no ears. They were small, like children, but with large heads and long slender arms. They had large, oval-shaped eyes, no noses, and slits for mouths. A picture was taken showing one of the bodies, but the family lost it long ago.

July 9, 1946

Lake Barken, Sweden - Insufficient data
The witness watched an object with alternating blue and green lights come from the northeast and plunge into the lake about 110 yards away.

July 10, 1946
Bjorken, Sweden - Insufficient data
A number of people watched as a "projectile trailing luminous smoke" slammed into a beach, leaving a yard-wide shallow crater containing a slag-like material, some of it reduced to powder. A newspaper reporter found a cylinder about twenty or thirty meters in diameter. Military officials investigated, produced ambiguous results, and finally accused the witnesses of imagining things.

July 19, 1946
Lake Kolmjarv, Sweden - Insufficient data
Witnesses watched a gray rocket-shaped object with wings crash into the lake, sparking a three-week hunt for it by military authorities. Nothing was found. Nearly forty years later a Swedish UFO researcher, Clas Svahn, interviewed some of the civilian witnesses and military investigators. An air force officer speculated that the object might have been made of a lightweight material that could disintegrate easily. A civilian witness claimed she heard a "thunderclap" that might have been the object exploding.

The following is a preliminary list of UFO crashes throughout the world. Currently, little is known about most of these crashes. However, we are making an effort to post any information that we come across from newsgroups to eyewitness reports.

Most physical evidence of these crashes have been confiscated by the government; however, not all evidence is in their possession. In the past, the government's central archive of UFO wreckage was Wright Patterson Air Force Base, Dayton, Ohio. It has been reported that most of the alien bodies have been sent to Great Britian for storage and examination.

1939-46 -- Spitzenbergen, NORWAY -- ?

4 July 1947 -- Roswell, NEW MEXICO -- 4 Bodies

13 Feb 1948 -- Aztec, NEW MEXICO -- 12 Bodies

7 July 1948 -- MEXICO So.of LAREDO TX -- 1 Body

1949 -- Roswell, NEW MEXICO -- 1 ET Living

1952 -- Spitzenbergen, NORWAY -- 2 Bodies

14 Aug 1952 -- Ely, NEVADA -- 16 Bodies

10 Sep 1950 -- Albuquerque, NEW MEXICO -- 3 Bodies

18 Apr 1953 -- S.W. ARIZONA -- No Bodies

20 May 1953 -- Kingman, ARIZONA -- 1 Body

19 June 1953 -- Laredo, TEXAS -- 4 Bodies

10 July 1953 -- Johofnisburg S.AFRICA -- 5 Bodies

13 Oct 1953 -- Dutton, MONTANA -- 4 Bodies

5 May 1955 -- Brighton, ENGLAND -- 4 Bodies

18 July 1957 -- Carlsbad, NEW MEXICO -- 4 Bodies

1961 -- Timmensdorfer, GERMANY -- 12 Bodies

12 June 1962 -- Holloman AFB, NEW MEXICO -- 2 Bodies

10 Nov 1964 -- Ft.Riley, KANSAS -- 9 Bodies

27 Oct 1966 -- N.W. ARIZONA -- 1 Body

1966-1968 -- 5 CRASHES IN/KY/OH AREA -- 3 Bodies -- Disk Intact

18 July 1972 -- MORROCO SAHARA DESERT -- 3 Bodies

10 July 1973 -- NW ARIZONA -- 5 Bodies

25 Aug 1974 -- CHIHUAHUA MEXICO -- ? Bodies -- Disk Intact

12 May 1976 -- AUSTRALIAN DESERT -- 4 Bodies

22 June 1977 -- NW ARIZONA -- 5 Bodies

5 Apr 1977 -- SW OHIO -- 11 Bodies

17 Aug 1977 -- TOBASCO MEXICO -- 2 Bodies

May 1978 -- BOLIVIA -- No Bodies

Nov 1988 -- AFGHANISTAN -- 7 Bodies

May 1989 -- SOUTH AFRICA -- 2 ET Living

June 1989 -- SOUTH AFRICA -- 2 ET -- Disk Intact

July 1989 -- SIBERIA -- 9 ET Living

2 Sept 1990 -- Megas Platanos, GREECE -- ?

Nov 1992 -- Long Island NY, NEW YORK -- ?

Most of the crashes listed were identified in the Summer 1980 issue of THE NEW ATLANTEAN JOURNAL on page 54. As we come across references to other crashes, we are including them in this list with the hope of one day confirming or disconfirming them.

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